Episode 7

Building a Business that Fits Your Life with Sigrid Van Heerwarden

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Transcript
audioChrisJolly:

All right everybody, welcome back to the show.

audioChrisJolly:

I am super excited as always because today we have a really awesome

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entrepreneur on, and her name is Sigrid and she is from the Netherlands.

audioChrisJolly:

Sigrid, how are you today?

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: I'm good.

audioChrisJolly:

Thank you for inviting me.

audioChrisJolly:

I'm really excited to be.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

Excellent.

audioChrisJolly:

Thanks for coming on the show.

audioChrisJolly:

We're really excited to have you.

audioChrisJolly:

I know that you're gonna have some great insights for our audience and

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but yeah, just really excited that you took the time out of your day

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today to sit down and talk with me.

audioChrisJolly:

Really quickly you.

audioChrisJolly:

Have your own business that you operate in your name, you do a lot of coaching,

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you do one-to-one coaching, you have group programs, and then you just

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started doing some retreats in some amazing locations like Ibiza and Dubai.

audioChrisJolly:

So why don't you go ahead and just tell everybody a little bit more

audioChrisJolly:

about who you are, what you do, who you help, and that sort of thing.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Yeah, let's start a little bit because I only

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

started like four years ago to go full in.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And so my journey was one of massive quantum leaps, and what I

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

decided is what I'm really gifted at is a spiritual mentoring.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So that's actually what I do like in the business.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And so I started in 2018 with the first clients.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And then quickly I started filling not just one-on-one, but actually going

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high end and starting to do groups.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And so what I do is mainly like empowering women into their gis of divine potential.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So that's basically what it is.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And they get results in all arenas of their lives because, Women

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

in this time are usually busy.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

They like to have like full wealth capacity, they like to be great

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mothers, great like everything.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And then how do you do that?

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So that is something where I allow them to step into who they

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really are and to bring that in.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And I do that through daily channeling.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I do that through empowerment, like really retreats, all the

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

things, really amazing things.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So yeah, that's in a nutshell, what I.

audioChrisJolly:

Awesome.

audioChrisJolly:

And how did you get interested in that?

audioChrisJolly:

We'll get you started.

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: when I was a social worker, I

audioChrisJolly:

just knew, and I think like many entrepreneurs, you are born for more.

audioChrisJolly:

You have this desire to feel free.

audioChrisJolly:

I felt locked in.

audioChrisJolly:

I was good at what I did, but.

audioChrisJolly:

I just wanted more, like I wanted to break the money codes.

audioChrisJolly:

I wanted to break the Freedom codes.

audioChrisJolly:

I just wanted to live a full life, but I had three children at that time.

audioChrisJolly:

Now I actually have four, and so there were so many limitations

audioChrisJolly:

and I did not see anyone.

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Who was succeeding with many children living this very exciting traveling

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life and then still being a good mother and doing all the things.

audioChrisJolly:

So I just felt very much called into diving into that and shifting that

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paradigm, not just for me but for other women who just have this ambition.

audioChrisJolly:

So that is really where it started.

audioChrisJolly:

And then I just started with what I was really good at, which was coaching people.

audioChrisJolly:

And then it just started to accelerate . In bigger ways.

audioChrisJolly:

And that got me where I am right now.

audioChrisJolly:

I feel a lot of what I do is just create the life I want and

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then it matches my business.

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And so everything in my life is structured in a way that it all matches.

audioChrisJolly:

So I can travel a lot.

audioChrisJolly:

I'm only working like during the week.

audioChrisJolly:

Three months, a year I'm off so I can travel.

audioChrisJolly:

I created a business that actually fits me and my lifestyle and created.

audioChrisJolly:

Wealth that is just supporting that lifestyle, which is exhilarating because

audioChrisJolly:

I believe that is what I came to do.

audioChrisJolly:

I came to create massive impact and only my life to the fullest.

audioChrisJolly:

So that is my vision on creating a business.

audioChrisJolly:

It's not just a business, it's actually my lifestyle.

audioChrisJolly:

It's who I am.

audioChrisJolly:

And so I don't really feel.

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I'm now in my business and now I'm just living my life and I create a great life.

audioChrisJolly:

So expression of who I am is part of my life.

audioChrisJolly:

That's my business.

audioChrisJolly:

And then of course, like spending time with my love and we're getting married

audioChrisJolly:

now, so that's an exciting part.

audioChrisJolly:

And so I make sure that all components in my life fit because I

audioChrisJolly:

believe then I'm able to scale into something which is healthy, which

audioChrisJolly:

is feeling wealthy on our levels.

audioChrisJolly:

Not just the money, but actually feeling wealthy and radiant , so

audioChrisJolly:

that has been my number one thing.

audioChrisJolly:

audioChrisJolly42139394262: That's awesome.

audioChrisJolly:

Congratulations on getting married.

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: Thank you.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

audioChrisJolly42139394262: Yeah, absolutely.

audioChrisJolly:

Now, I know that you mentioned, you started doing one-on-one moved into group

audioChrisJolly:

programs, you started doing high ticket.

audioChrisJolly:

I talked to a lot of coaches and mentors, and they get stuck in

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making the moves from going from.

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One-on-one to working with a larger set of people and also realizing

audioChrisJolly:

that what they have is valuable and they can probably charge way more

audioChrisJolly:

than what they actually are charging.

audioChrisJolly:

Can you speak to your journey with that and how that progressed for you?

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: I think I am as a social worker, I

audioChrisJolly:

was working with groups, so I felt very confident in leading groups.

audioChrisJolly:

So it was not like I was new in the world.

audioChrisJolly:

I never coached anyone I felt.

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Confident and I knew the value of groups, so I could literally give

audioChrisJolly:

the audience that transmission and I give them the value.

audioChrisJolly:

So that part was so crystal clear to me that for me, after selling say 10 people,

audioChrisJolly:

one-on-one, I was like, I'm doing the same stuff with these people, and so why not?

audioChrisJolly:

The group, make it charge less, have more people in the group, and then

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make and then uplevel my one-on-one so that I can charge more and I

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can give these people what I'm not actually offering in the programs.

audioChrisJolly:

Because I realized I was doing the same thing again.

audioChrisJolly:

So those people I wanted in a group.

audioChrisJolly:

And then for the advanced one, I was like giving the one-on-one mentor.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

And as far as the pricing piece goes how.

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was that for you?

audioChrisJolly:

I know a lot of coaches bump up against, being able to charge what they're

audioChrisJolly:

worth because they don't necessarily realize the value of what they do.

audioChrisJolly:

What was that like for you?

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So for me, when I started, and that was at

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

that time like a lot, I remember asking 900 euros for three months of coaching

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

and that was like out of this world.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

That was like half a month of salary.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So for me that was a big journey to step into my value.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I just felt, my gifts, I have, it's something what I do natural, so why

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

can I ask a lot of money for that?

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

That felt really weird.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So I had to do go in.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And I just made agreements.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

What I did was if I sell something three times at this price, I have to upgrade.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So I just had this structure into what made me upgrade.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Okay, this is now I'm selling it three times.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Let's go up.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I remember in March I was selling my first Private coaching for three months,

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

for 900 euros, almost a thousand.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And then in May I actually sold 2,500.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

, what I started doing is like in February, I was at like a thousand

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

euros a month, and then in May, because I sold three, like I was

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

at 2,500 because I kept upgrading.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So I, for one, had a coach at that time who was charging

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

in my believe a lot of money.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Now I have one-on-one packages for 55,000 and she didn't even charge

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

that at that time, but I felt, I feel being around people who charged.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

High ticket with ease.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

That just helps you to grow into it.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So I would always have these, say three arenas.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

One is I'm used to it.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

First it was, I'm used to giving what I do for nothing, and that was my

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normal standard, and I upgraded that.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Then the middle was, okay, this is my stretch and let's go into the stretch.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

What is a number that feels good, but it's still a stretch.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And then there was the uber stretch, like the big dream.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I positioned that when I started my big dream was making 78,000 euros a year.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

That was, felt like the biggest thing.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Now I I've months like bigger than that.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So You just elevate the thing.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And I do that by using literally myself and I make agreements with myself.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And I feel if you're too much in the emotion, it just becomes really

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hard because then like I don't feel good, or it feels like this.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I'm just making a plan.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Or I made a plan at that time where I would upgrade my

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

prices, but not in a weird way.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So after three times I was used to it, my nervous system was relaxed

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

into it, and then I was just adding a little and I was adding a little.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Until I just entered the magic field where I feel like this is what feels right now.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And now if I feel like I want to upgrade, I will, but some of the prices

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

just feel really good to me right now.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Makes sense.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

audioChrisJolly42139394262: Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And what really stands out, and what I really believe too is it's about

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

who you surround yourself with.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Because it is so helpful to see that example if you've never done

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

something and it seems so far removed from you to do, then you

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

don't even know how it can happen.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

It seems like such a big deal, like it's gonna take so much work and then

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

you see somebody who has been doing that thing for years and something

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

that you've been working for months on.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

They just walk up and they have the answer and they've

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

figured it out in five minutes.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And those people are so useful to have around you because they have a

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

completely different mindset and it's the mindset that you really need to

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

adopt to, level up, like you said.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

100% so that you can stand into that new

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

identity because the man or woman who is charging that level is already there.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

The man and woman who, who feels worthy, he or she is there.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

It's just am I allowing her out of the cage basically?

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Am I ready to.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Unleash her and stand in my power and stand in my

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

confidence, and then walk with.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Yeah, and there's, I feel, there's also the thing where people just say

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

they, they believe it, but they don't really, and then it's not working.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So you need to match like everything within you into that alignment, which

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

says, do you know, I'm ready for this?

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Let's go.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And it still feels like a stretch.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

It always feels like it's still there's tension on it, but I can do it.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And if you're in that energy and you're just consistently moving with

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

everything, then it just goes super fast and you make quantum leaps and

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

in my case anyway, I made massive leaps from nothing into a lot.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Yeah.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

audioChrisJolly42139394262: You really have to align with

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

that energy and for most.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Comes down to an issue of embodiment, right?

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

It's the same thing with all the affirmations that everybody does.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

You can repeat the same thing over and over a million times

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

a day every day of your life.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

But if you don't internalize it inside your nervous system, and actually,

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

believe it that way, you're gonna have a hard time trying to manifest something

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

like that because whatever your brain might say, your body is telling,

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

the universe, the love, attraction, whatever you wanna call it, no.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: So you need to be safe.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Feel safe.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I believe in that.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Feel safe in your body and you can have a little stretch, but if you're

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

constantly overstretching, like having numbers, that sound good because everyone

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

on the internet has these numbers.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

That is literally not the way.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Into the elevation.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

It's what feels like a stretch and what feels good to me and that number

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I have what I want that will come.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

But now I'm just moving into that, what I'm capable of holding that what

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I'm capable like in to holding my ne nervous system in how I think, in how

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I act, in like how I value myself.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And I do believe like high ticket is a great way of selling because you only

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

have to sell a couple of things and then it gives you a lot of freedom.

audioChrisJolly:

Yep.

audioChrisJolly:

And it gives you more time to be able to serve your clients and to put your

audioChrisJolly:

life together the way that you want.

audioChrisJolly:

And you know it, it makes you get better, like you said, because you don't

audioChrisJolly:

say I'm gonna go triple what I charge, but I'm gonna offer the same thing.

audioChrisJolly:

You say if I'm gonna charge more, then I need to change what I'm doing and

audioChrisJolly:

what I offer so that it's worth that.

audioChrisJolly:

And so the more that you charge, the more value you are actually given to create.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

100%.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Yeah.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And I also feel like I go live on Facebook every day and I do that for

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

free because I believe what I do behind the scenes, and in my classes and

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

programs and experiences is even better.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So like I always believe when you give your best for free, there's

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

always more what is even better.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And that is an attitude I feel as an entrepreneur that is so beneficial

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

because it gives you creativity, it gives freedom, it gives excitement,

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

it gives abundance, all of that.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And that translate, I think, translates to an audience and into money as well.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah, I agree.

audioChrisJolly:

There's a lot of coaches out there who think that, if I give content out for

audioChrisJolly:

free, then they're not gonna need to come work with me because they can just

audioChrisJolly:

take the content and do it on their own.

audioChrisJolly:

And while there might be a small percentage of people who

audioChrisJolly:

actually can and will do something like that, Most people aren't.

audioChrisJolly:

What they really need is the accountability, which is why they need to

audioChrisJolly:

sign up and get the coaching, so they have to show up every week and actually move

audioChrisJolly:

what they're doing.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: Yeah, 100%.

audioChrisJolly:

Okay.

audioChrisJolly:

Now I want to ask you, because I'm really interested, and I'm sure our audience

audioChrisJolly:

would love to hear, you were telling me before the interview about some retreats

audioChrisJolly:

you've been doing in Ibiza and Dubai.

audioChrisJolly:

That sounds super amazing.

audioChrisJolly:

Can you tell us a little more?

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: Yes, so I love hosting events

audioChrisJolly:

in person, so I do all inclusive retreats where I rent out a hotel.

audioChrisJolly:

And the people are like, everything is included.

audioChrisJolly:

And then I do during the day, my sessions, and sometimes this

audioChrisJolly:

is part of my inner circle.

audioChrisJolly:

So for the women who are participating in all my programs, that's part of it.

audioChrisJolly:

But I also do it as an exclusive retreat where people just can do the retreat only.

audioChrisJolly:

And what I lead women into is full embodiment of their divine potential,

audioChrisJolly:

which is pretty extraordinary.

audioChrisJolly:

But we also do it in a way that is really relaxed and laid back.

audioChrisJolly:

Some of the retreats are really filled, like from seven to say

audioChrisJolly:

in the middle of the night.

audioChrisJolly:

I know my work is so impactful, I don't need to do it that way.

audioChrisJolly:

So we.

audioChrisJolly:

Enjoy a lot of like relaxation time and then we do in the middle, like during the

audioChrisJolly:

day high impact sessions and then they can connect with each other later on.

audioChrisJolly:

And because we are in this close surrounding like ona, it's just

audioChrisJolly:

a beautiful atmosphere and or in Dubai that is just like that

audioChrisJolly:

place, those places in, its.

audioChrisJolly:

Just radiate such beautiful energy.

audioChrisJolly:

So , the women flying in from all over the world, that flight in itself is just

audioChrisJolly:

creating massive transformation and then being there together is just phenomenal.

audioChrisJolly:

And it's interesting because most people tend to return, so they

audioChrisJolly:

come back over and over again.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah I love being with people in person and I love seeing them like go

audioChrisJolly:

way beyond who they are and what they think they're capable, and that is

audioChrisJolly:

literally happening in those retreats.

audioChrisJolly:

It's pretty spectacular.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

it's a great place.

audioChrisJolly:

Like that to go to stretch yourself and to, embody a new identity and

audioChrisJolly:

to meet other people who are also working and growing together.

audioChrisJolly:

For sure.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Yeah.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

That is 100% true.

audioChrisJolly:

Okay.

audioChrisJolly:

Now I wanna ask you as you continue to grow and scale your business,

audioChrisJolly:

what kind of has been the biggest financial roadblock for you so far?

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: I think the biggest thing was at

audioChrisJolly:

first I just made a lot of money.

audioChrisJolly:

That was just happening like a lot of money , and then I

audioChrisJolly:

realized I do not have any costs.

audioChrisJolly:

So what started to happen is, That I had to pay extreme amounts of

audioChrisJolly:

taxes, like far beyond the 50%.

audioChrisJolly:

It was closer to 71, 70 2% like in total.

audioChrisJolly:

And so I realized it's one thing to make money, but it's a whole

audioChrisJolly:

other thing to build wealth.

audioChrisJolly:

And so for me it was about looking into ways that.

audioChrisJolly:

Were changing that I didn't have to work harder and I love to pay taxes.

audioChrisJolly:

Let I be very clear because I think it's good and I live in a beautiful country,

audioChrisJolly:

but this was just beyond anything because I did not have a physical business.

audioChrisJolly:

If you have a physical business, there's a lot of costs, and then the percentages

audioChrisJolly:

are very different from having an online business and only like profit.

audioChrisJolly:

It sounds really good, but the money was just.

audioChrisJolly:

I dunno, disappearing, like very fast.

audioChrisJolly:

So that was one of the things, and first I didn't really care because I was building

audioChrisJolly:

the business and then I had some team on, so there were more costs and all of that.

audioChrisJolly:

But that has been one of the things that.

audioChrisJolly:

Was bordering me.

audioChrisJolly:

And then another thing was the inconsistency.

audioChrisJolly:

So I had months of over a hundred and then months of 10.

audioChrisJolly:

So that was another thing.

audioChrisJolly:

What felt like inconsistency in money flow, so months, really high

audioChrisJolly:

months, low months, all of that.

audioChrisJolly:

And that, that actually still takes mo when I talk about money.

audioChrisJolly:

That takes most of my bandwidth to stay centered, to trust,

audioChrisJolly:

to walk, to see that it's.

audioChrisJolly:

Becoming more and obviously have a lowest kind of month thing, and then a highest,

audioChrisJolly:

but it's like I would love to have more of this, like consistency in the income,

audioChrisJolly:

even though like with the months I make in between, it's like it's crazy.

audioChrisJolly:

So it's perfect.

audioChrisJolly:

And that is one of the things where I'm currently working

audioChrisJolly:

on to make it more consistent.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

That's something that I believe that a lot of entrepreneurs struggle with, especially

audioChrisJolly:

in, the kind of coaching and consulting space, because you do have those widely

audioChrisJolly:

varied months where , you'll close somebody into your high level one-on-one.

audioChrisJolly:

You'll have five people sign up for a group program that you just started.

audioChrisJolly:

And then you hit a bad month and you get maybe one or two new clients and

audioChrisJolly:

suddenly it's like the faucet dries up.

audioChrisJolly:

And as you alluded to the, there's a very real difference between making a

audioChrisJolly:

lot of money and actually doing something with that money and building wealth.

audioChrisJolly:

And I think that it's a lot a, a big trap that a lot of people fall into

audioChrisJolly:

cuz they start making a lot of money.

audioChrisJolly:

And then what do they do?

audioChrisJolly:

They go spend everything that they make.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And for me, I was actually saving a lot

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

because I literally could not believe who was coming in and I didn't really

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

need a lot because I had a good life.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And obviously I'm a mother and so we did go on holidays, but and so I did

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

do a whole rebuilding in the home and, investments and I did all the things and

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

then I was just going for the next level.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And for me, that was changing my business from the Netherlands to Dubai

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

to shift level of tax what I was paying.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So that has been one of my latest, biggest.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Business moves.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So I'm still paying tax in the Netherlands, but I'm also

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

creating a business in an additional business in Dubai.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So when I have my savings in there, I can literally start investing from that place,

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

which just makes my money more available to me and creates wealth in a bigger way.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I cannot work for that app.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Like it just is impossible to work that hard to get the same amount.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And so this, now the money starts working for me, which is very exciting.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

One thing that so many people overlook in the journey to financial freedom

audioChrisJolly:

is really that tax that they're paying and what they might be able to do to,

audioChrisJolly:

incorporate or live in a more tax friendly location because, as you said, It's one

audioChrisJolly:

thing to save a little bit of money here or there, but if you can move somewhere

audioChrisJolly:

and save 30, 40, 50% on your taxes, you'd have to work five times as much,

audioChrisJolly:

five times as hard to get that money back to then pay taxes on it anyway.

audioChrisJolly:

And yeah, that's one of the best things you can do to build wealth

audioChrisJolly:

that's just lower your tax burden.

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: And for me it felt very exciting.

audioChrisJolly:

I have a very good team.

audioChrisJolly:

I have multiple, but two are my core team to offer them like 10% of the profit.

audioChrisJolly:

So now I also have a highly active and engaged team that will never leave

audioChrisJolly:

me because it's such a good deal.

audioChrisJolly:

It's not like you get 10% of like after tax.

audioChrisJolly:

No.

audioChrisJolly:

You get 10% of the profit.

audioChrisJolly:

And that creates, because that was also a thing, if you ask what do I think

audioChrisJolly:

was hard was I made a lot of money.

audioChrisJolly:

I had my team, my sisters on my team, and so it felt always

audioChrisJolly:

oh, we're celebrating that.

audioChrisJolly:

I make a lot of money.

audioChrisJolly:

You get a good payment, but still, what is the excitement for you?

audioChrisJolly:

Because you have, do you know your thing?

audioChrisJolly:

And now it's every temp, like every payment made 10% is for her.

audioChrisJolly:

And that feels very exciting because then it goes really fast.

audioChrisJolly:

So that's also something I really love about sharing in bigger ways.

audioChrisJolly:

And now also to be able to put money to causes I want to put it to.

audioChrisJolly:

And I have a big thing with children and big thing with women.

audioChrisJolly:

So I like to donate money now in way more bigger chunks than what I did before.

audioChrisJolly:

So it gives a lot of freedom on all.

audioChrisJolly:

And I thought I had to move to Dubai, but that was not really the

audioChrisJolly:

case, so that was also interest.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah, and that's something too that a lot

audioChrisJolly:

of people I think don't realize is that for some of these countries you

audioChrisJolly:

don't actually have to move there.

audioChrisJolly:

For some of them, you don't even have to step foot in the country at all.

audioChrisJolly:

And a lot of people just don't wanna unroot themselves.

audioChrisJolly:

They're happy where they are, their families are nearby, that sort of thing.

audioChrisJolly:

But sometimes you don't even have to make the move to get the tax advantage.

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: Yeah, and this was a fast move.

audioChrisJolly:

I decided it like in December and within two months I arranged all the things.

audioChrisJolly:

I do have to go to Dubai every six months, but I now just host retreats then.

audioChrisJolly:

Do you know?

audioChrisJolly:

It's perfect.

audioChrisJolly:

I love hanging out.

audioChrisJolly:

The energy is amazing there.

audioChrisJolly:

It's such a, if you want wealth wipes while go to Dubai, you will feel it.

audioChrisJolly:

You will be energetically charged for sure.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah, so there's a lot of ways to make it more exciting.

audioChrisJolly:

I feel now.

audioChrisJolly:

This was like an adventure.

audioChrisJolly:

It feels very exciting to me.

audioChrisJolly:

Instead of dreading like all the things, it now feels super exciting.

audioChrisJolly:

I created a business that feels exciting to me and I think that is something.

audioChrisJolly:

Which is available.

audioChrisJolly:

It's not a dream.

audioChrisJolly:

It's really available.

audioChrisJolly:

If you allow that to be the vision and you go and you break the barriers

audioChrisJolly:

of the norm, that's basically it.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah, and it's crucial to do that because otherwise,

audioChrisJolly:

instead of building a business that you're excited to show up to every day, you.

audioChrisJolly:

Given yourself a job that you hate, and if you wanna go to a job that you hate,

audioChrisJolly:

just go work for somebody else because you'll probably make way more money

audioChrisJolly:

and have less of a headache, at least

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

100%.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

This is 100% true.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Yeah.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

It's about the whole life experience, right As you run the business.

audioChrisJolly:

So a moment ago, you mentioned the word freedom.

audioChrisJolly:

I wanna ask you, what does financial freedom look like to you?

audioChrisJolly:

I know everybody has a different picture, so not necessarily like a dollar amount

audioChrisJolly:

or anything like that, but if you had your business running where you didn't

audioChrisJolly:

have to show up every day in it and you had all the money you could ever

audioChrisJolly:

ask for, what would you do with your.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So for me, It means that I do something

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I absolutely love, which is that what I do right now, it means that I spend,

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

can spend time with my children.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I see them grow up, which is happening right now.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

It means that I have a lot of free time to travel, which I'm creating

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

right now, and it means I get to share my wealth with the people I love.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And to really create a great life where other people they're

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

part of my inner circle.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So for me that means that, and then it obviously means that money is doing

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

its work for me, but at the end of the day, I don't ever want to stop working

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

because I love my work that much.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Like it would feel very empty to me if I would only have automated

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

things going, although I will create that, that's part of creating wealth.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

But I like to feel fulfilled in.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And so wealth is not just money for me.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

It's also the experience of creating amazing programs, seeing people

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

transform their lives like it.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

For me, the giving element in wealth and financial freedom is really big as well.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So although it's money and that is all part of it, my feeling

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

is to live a very inspired.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And great life.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I think that's why you see people who really succeed financially

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

and early on retire they start up something new because they miss that.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So I just know like work will be part of me, but not in a way that

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I feel it's work, but I don't really feel it's work right now.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So already live that life.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So now I'm just walking into the vision bigger, faster, more in

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

bigger, like in more exciting ways.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So that's how it is for me.

audioChrisJolly:

Great.

audioChrisJolly:

I love that.

audioChrisJolly:

It's exactly what most entrepreneurs want out of their business is to build

audioChrisJolly:

that wealth so that they can go on to the next thing and so that they

audioChrisJolly:

can continue to have that impact.

audioChrisJolly:

Because when you love to do something, you don't want to stop just

audioChrisJolly:

because you made a bunch of money.

audioChrisJolly:

You want to continue to do it, even if the way that you do it changes.

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: Yes, 100% bigger ways, or maybe less

audioChrisJolly:

often or whatever, but it's yeah, I really have that strong calling

audioChrisJolly:

to create something phenomenal beyond what I've ever could imagined

audioChrisJolly:

something which is breathtaking to me.

audioChrisJolly:

That is, that feels exciting for me.

audioChrisJolly:

I love that drive, and it sounds

audioChrisJolly:

like you've got a really.

audioChrisJolly:

Clear picture of what financial freedom is for you and are well along the journey.

audioChrisJolly:

what are your plans for 2023 inside of your business?

audioChrisJolly:

What's one thing you'd really love to accomplish this year,

audioChrisJolly:

or what's the biggest initiative you have going on right now?

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: We have multiple things.

audioChrisJolly:

I like to create online retreats, like a summit.

audioChrisJolly:

So we're gonna go into the Quantum Leap Summit where I'm

audioChrisJolly:

interviewing amazing women and I'm calling in like a new audience.

audioChrisJolly:

I feel very excited about that.

audioChrisJolly:

My website actually got hijacked, which was a blessing in disguise

audioChrisJolly:

because we're gonna build that for new.

audioChrisJolly:

And I'm gonna upgrade all of my programs, all of the qualities.

audioChrisJolly:

So that is really like I continue to up level everything

audioChrisJolly:

I do and actually to attract.

audioChrisJolly:

Even more powerful women into my world.

audioChrisJolly:

So that is my main focus.

audioChrisJolly:

And in that of obviously cash flow is coming in more abundant

audioChrisJolly:

ways because that is now changing.

audioChrisJolly:

And so I will also look into bigger investments because

audioChrisJolly:

obviously now with Dubai in the picture, everything is changing.

audioChrisJolly:

So there's multiple things.

audioChrisJolly:

I usually move fast.

audioChrisJolly:

So this is more like force first, first half of the year, and then usually

audioChrisJolly:

like after three months, I continue to add more for the rest of the year.

audioChrisJolly:

Usually more comes in like more ships, more things.

audioChrisJolly:

I'm someone who likes to create a lot.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

So that is my focus and to run phenomenal programs and all of that.

audioChrisJolly:

That is just something I love.

audioChrisJolly:

Yeah.

audioChrisJolly:

audioChrisJolly42139394262: Sounds amazing.

audioChrisJolly:

Is there anything else that you'd like to share with our audience?

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: not really.

audioChrisJolly:

But what I would love for you, if you're listening, is to just.

audioChrisJolly:

Create a business and a life you love that excites you every day.

audioChrisJolly:

And of course there's moments where you feel stuck and there's

audioChrisJolly:

mo, but that's in a day job.

audioChrisJolly:

That's everywhere.

audioChrisJolly:

We will never have a life where we don't elevate.

audioChrisJolly:

And elevation means sometimes we, we bounce and then we continue.

audioChrisJolly:

But if you have a clear vision of what you want, that is just the best thing

audioChrisJolly:

because one, it, once it fits in your vision, you just continue to move.

audioChrisJolly:

And if it's not, you don't need to do it.

audioChrisJolly:

So having a really strong vision.

audioChrisJolly:

And then living it with all your heart is the gateway to influence

audioChrisJolly:

success in all arenas in your life.

audioChrisJolly:

audioChrisJolly42139394262: I absolutely agree.

audioChrisJolly:

And that's so well said.

audioChrisJolly:

You shared a lot of really valuable insights for me and my listener's secret.

audioChrisJolly:

It's been absolutely amazing to have you on.

audioChrisJolly:

Thanks again for taking the time out.

audioChrisJolly:

Of your day to jump on the show and speak with us.

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: Thank you for asking me and

audioChrisJolly:

thank you everyone for listening.

audioChrisJolly:

Now, for anybody who's looking to

audioChrisJolly:

connect with you or wants to find out more about what you do, what's

audioChrisJolly:

the best way for them to do that?

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I think the quickest way is to either go to

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

Instagram where I have my daily challenge, so you can see a little bit of the work

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

I do, or you go to my business Facebook page, which is also called My name.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

That will be quick.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

And then usually I do a lot of master courses and classes and then you will

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

be on my email list and that actually gives you access to a lot of good stuff.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

What I do, paid and unpaid, I just do a lot of different and varieties.

audioSigridVanHeerwaa:

So there's multiple ways.

audioChrisJolly:

Awesome.

audioChrisJolly:

Thanks again for sharing that and for coming on.

audioChrisJolly:

It's been a pleasure.

audioChrisJolly:

And if you're listening out there and you enjoyed today's episode,

audioChrisJolly:

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audioChrisJolly:

All right, thanks again.

audioChrisJolly:

So much.

audioChrisJolly:

audioSigridVanHeerwaa32139394262: Thank you so much for having me.

audioChrisJolly:

audioChrisJolly42139394262: Yeah, absolutely.

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